Comments on: 3 Counter-Arguments For Online Poker Being Rigged.

By: nobunsallowed

nobunsallowed — Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:32:19 +0000

How come some days u win every hand, and some days u lose every hand, that’s all i’d like to know about online poker. for years i’ve refused to buy into the whole it’s fixed thing, but too many times have i seen just one chair win win win all day every person who sits in it no matter how they play, then another person lose every single hand. the best example i checked my stats, won 1 hand out of 112 b4 i went bust obviously. even if ur terrible, w/ an average of 7 at the table throughout the session, how do u get delt that dead? i still refused to beleive online sites r intentionally rigged, but i do beleive now there’s a glitch in the hands that r “randomly” delt.

By: T-Mo

T-Mo — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:43:46 +0000

Its defo Rigged, anyone who says it isnt just shut the fuck up, people are loosing so much money because of internet poker, bad players win too much and xavier for someone who studied stats u talk a lot of shit, everything u say is true in poker but it just does not play out that way online, the high %’s loose too much, good players loose too much, players who are winning in casinos are loosing thousands online, look at the amount of ppl complaning!! Poker is a beautiful game and people say its rise is due to internet poker, well now that there are millions of playres there is no longer need for internet poker, virtually evety city and town in europe and america would have enough poker fans to sey up poker clubs and MTTs, and there would be fuk all rigging with real cards bar the odd genius who is able to hide pocket aces up his top.

By: Cowboy Billy

Cowboy Billy — Sat, 29 May 2010 08:14:03 +0000

It’s all a SCAM. Internet Poker used to be legit during the earlier days but it’s certainly RIGGED today. Tourneys are rigged to finish faster and cash games are rigged to help the fishes stay even. Its gotten so bad that even withdrawing your money is a gamble itself. Whatever you do, never deposit! There are many ways to play for real money without depositing so don’t deposit. Don’t feed those thieving scumbags until the industry changes.

By: nobunsallowed

nobunsallowed — Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:28:02 +0000

to anyone who wants to c how pro’s really do in these online poker tourneys try http://www.propokerlabs.com it tracks nearly every player on a ton of sites, just look urself up first if u dont beleive me, u’ll c that nearly all live game pros r losers online. online poker isnt fixed as much as it is impossible to win due to the rake and having no real idea what ur opponent is holding behind his screen. plus to those who just blah blah blah i never lose, that’s because even over the course of years some players r far more fortunate than others, u dont get in w/ ur KK five tourneys in a row preflop only to c ur opp flip over AA and bull like that. but that’s all the b****in i shall do…

By: Xavier

Xavier — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:46:33 +0000

In response to dik head said:
If you are holding AdAh while your opponent holds 5c4s and the flop comes 2h3h7d

Your opponent would still have about a 1 in 5 chance of winning.

If you would like to educate yourself, you can download Poker Stove and input hands and ranges to find %’s.

Many people play piss poor poker and get lucky. This does not mean that they have inside information. It just means that they are bad players. You should be happy to see them at your table, knowing that, in the long run you will get your money back from them (if you play smart.)

Just to counteract the argument before it arrives: I do no work for any poker room online or off.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:34:16 +0000

My above post should say “Complaining all over the internet is bad for poker.” All these negative comments could scare off new players. Players who are critical to the growth of the poker community.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:30:58 +0000

Bots may be a real issue. If you search you will find that there is a whole community of poker botters. Fortunately, most poker bots and losing players; and the amount of time, effort, and knowledge which would be required to make a successful bot creates a large barrier to entry.

Some web-site prohibit the use of bots. Some actively enforce these rules and others do not. Some websites do not care because the bots generate rake and traffic. A company has limited resources and perhaps some feel that their resources are better spent elsewhere. If you think that you have encountered a bot then you should notify the poker room. Also, check their TOS to see what their policy is towards poker bots.

And as many have said before; if you feel that you are being cheated then take you money and go elsewhere. Complaining all over the internet is bad poker- Instead of being part of the problem, make yourself part of the solution.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:22:13 +0000

You can run a 50,000 player tourney in one day online because:
1. It is possible to play many more hands online. This is because you do not have to wait for the cards to be shuffled or the chips to be counted.
2. The structure of the tournament (faster levels) allow the tournament to end in a timely fashion.
3. People probably play looser, and faster on the internet because there is no fear of being embarrassed while sitting behind you computer screen.

If I am not mistaken there have been online tournaments which have taken more than one day to complete.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:29:41 +0000

Albert gave it one day to get better…Of course it is rigged for the “big players.” It is just like any other capitalist enterprise; where the money is at the top. This does not mean that the card room is scheming against you. If you want to make “big money” you have to:
1. Get Super Lucky (or have a lot of positive variance)
2. Study the game and work your way up. Of course on your way to the top you will encounter long stretches of negative variance. Long times where it seems like no matter what you do, you lose. If you understand poker, then you should know that it is a long term game. If you want to make money you have to play in the long term. With a large enough sample the distribution will approach normality. Please, educate yourself as to the facts.
Imagine if you only began playing poker live. You hit a stretch of positive variance. This stretch may seem to last because you play fewer hands (smaller sample) than you do on the internet. Eventually, you would realize, as you played more hands(larger sample),that your positive variance would be balanced by stretches of negative and normal variance. It is important not only to maximize how much you win during times of positive variance, but also to minimize the amount that you lose during times of negative variance.
Please, forgive me I am an amateur statistician. However, I think that my weak statistical skills illustrate the point that: It does not take much to understand that the REASON(s) THAT YOU ARE LOSING IS NOT BECAUSE THE CARDS ARE RIGGED AGAINST YOU.

Alternatively, you could accept that you are simply a recreational player. You will win somtimes, and you might get really lucky and hit a big score; but you will lose a lot of the time too. And because you are playing such a small number of hands your negative stretches may seem really long. You have to enjoy playing the game whether you are winning or losing.

By: Xavier

Xavier — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:47:56 +0000

Do you think that RNGs which rely on natural entropy and software are more or less random than the shuffling of a deck of cards?